how to max 2h dps?

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how to max 2h dps?

Postby riondel on 26 Jan 2012 01:06

mission: to efficiently kill undead in ferrott while having fun in 1 hr intervals

im fairly new to the paladin class and have learned a lot from some posters here in game already
if anyone else can help me with which aa i could buy for the largest gains to sustained 2h dps id appreciate it
almost up to date magelo here : http://eq.magelo.com/profile/2190273

m thinking veterans wrath, burst of power, unsure of value last 3 ranks of speed of the knight. not concerned at all about burn dps as i play with a wizard when i group . i just like to log in alone and chill and swing my hammer in ferrott sometimes while chatting with friends. thanks for any advice. having a blast, struggling with sk envy but determined to stick it out
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Re: how to max 2h dps?

Postby shiftie on 26 Jan 2012 01:19

Here is the paladin wiki with related epic quest walk throughs and Clickies to farm (clickies rule eq). This isn't 100% up to date but will give so much to work on you'll be busy for a while. http://samanna.net/wiki/index.php/Category:Paladin

Important class specific and archetype (not the aa tab but tank archetype) specific aa (**** are game changers)



innate runspeed ****
combat agility ****
combat stability ****
shield block ****
knights return strike ****
shield specialist
combat fury
speed of the knight
knights advantage
slay undead ****
holy steed ****
Healing adept
Healing gift
Healing boon
blessing of life
armor of the inquisitor
Lay on Hands
Hand of Piety
physical enhancement
natural durability
divine stun
hand of disruption
force of disruption
2 hand bash
double riposte
fear resistance
fearless ****
spell casting reinforcement ****
spell casting mastery ****
fury of magic
destructive fury
veterans wrath




as you get higher in levels, thing to improve dps and utility listed off the top of my head and in no specific order



leap of faith ****
balefire burst ****
blessing of faithful
inquisitors judgement
hastened deflection ****
valorous rage ****
shackles of tunare
quick buff
divine aura
first spire
purification
radiant cure
beacon of righteousness ****
disruptive persecution
cloak of light
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This is what I do when I'm not raiding
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Re: how to max 2h dps?

Postby shiftie on 26 Jan 2012 01:34

Depends on what you are looking for but I'll give you some afk dps and active dps tips. If you are looking at just upping your sustained dps in a group setting look toward the passive aa's if you are looking to help burn down a named then obviously look toward the activated and most of them overlap and compliment each other. I'll try to give a few examples.



Ways to increase passive dps



speed of the knight
knights advantage
shield specialist
flurry
spell casting fury
destructive fury
burst of power
Spell casting reinforcement
Blessing of light
combat fury
weapon affinity
veterans wrath
blessing of the faithful
Slay undead
knights return strike
tactical mastery
vicious smash
twinproc
2h bash
salvation of marr
finishing blow
Ways to increase active dps via AA

inquisitors judgement - this is going to greatly REDUCE your aggro, beware while tanking, often good to use projection of piety in conjunction with this if you plan on using it while tanking.
valorous rage
disruptive persecution
second spire
forceful rejuvination
Ok so what dps you are capable of is largely dependent on gear which I know sounds obvious but it has some caveats. If you are sufficiently geared to tank the content you are attempting then things play out a little differently. If you find yourself struggling to tank the content than your dps will drop significantly as you start to incorporate stuns, heals and other defensive abilities instead of focusing on dps. I'll mostly ignore this scenario and instead assume you are geared for the content and able to afford some wiggle room on the defensive side to open up the dps but I'll start with that scenario first.

Unable to tank efficiently

You should have mostly heals and stuns loaded for this type of content. You'll also be likely to have a 1her and shield equipped which will drastically change the prioritization of your passive aa.

In this scenario you'd likely want to go with
combat fury
slay undead
shield specialist
tactical mastery
burst of power
flurry
finishing blow - will help you get blessing of the faithful to proc
blessing of the faithful - kill shot aa with a 50% dmg mod and some ac
knights return strike
vicious smash
weapon affinity

It should be noted as most are aware that you'll see your biggest gains fighting against undead so if you are soloing you'll probably be out slaying lower end content as it has the LARGEST return of all because slay scales well against older content with fewer hp. Bear in mind that slay is a fixed % of all swings to trigger a slay. So the more passive aa you have to increase your swing rate the better slay rate you'll see, it doesn't direcly increase the slay frequency because it doesn't change the fixed % but it gives you better odds at a slay trigger in the same time frame.

Capable of tanking with 0 problems and are afforded the luxury of using a 2her and nukes to tank.

This is where these aa take the dps advantage and favor 2hers over 1h/shield. You can skate by with a 1her and shield from SoD-UF until 2hers get revamped. At that point you'll see the big boom happen with a 2her equipped.

Knights advantage
speed of the knight
2h bash
spell casting fury
destructive fury

Obviously you will have carry over here from the first scenario so you'll want to do those aa first as they work well in both setups.

If you can afford the luxury of 2h tanking you can probably also put away your stuns and save them for a rainy day. I only keep 1 stun loaded at all times unless I am strategically planning to do something with the stuns, such as conserving mana or for a particular raid script.

Spells to help you a long as you've now begun work on your passive crit and increased crit aa. You should also go in search of tonic of resonant magic if you are planning on doing this.

Crush of marr
Crush of repenetence
elegy
glorious exoneration
denouncement - you'll want to cast this a lot but it isn't the most effective in a 60 second burn due to the HHE effect on valorous rage, so you'll actually have to pay attention and spell thread this one.

AA - disruptive persecution, you'll need to do all of the aa stun lines to build this nuke up to full potential and that includes the aa rush to judgement that reduces the recast.

If you multibind you'll want to make sure to always cast disruptive persecution as it is up (this also helps with aggro). From there you'll want to set the priority Glorious (so twinheal is always ticking down for when you need it) > elegy > crush of repenetence > crush of marr

Second spire is a really small gain so it can be mostly ignored as you'll want to make use of first spire more than likely. In a raid setting we use it when we are trying to max a burn.

Speaking of max burns you'll want to always burn by stacking

Pureforge
Valorous Rage
Righteous Indignation
Inquisitors judgement

You can set up a hotkey to fire them in that order (which is the best order to have them cast in)

Max burn includes 7th & glyph of cataclysm but I'll ignore that for now since I doubt you're too worried about a raid burn.

The gift of mana line is really great for dps as well because if you chain cast your nukes as I was saying you'll find yourself out of mana in a hurry but you will see a decent increase to your dps. If you can I'd also do his shawl (the priest one) as the mana return can help you chain nuke till your heart is content.

In a situation where you aren't the main tank but still want to dps.

take off your aggro mask
cast marrs salvation on yourself
you can load the marks instead of the crushes depending on how good the tank is

This should get you started if you have any other questions feel free to shoot me a tell. The aa trees I listed here will probably keep you busy for quite some time. Good luck!
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Re: how to max 2h dps?

Postby shiftie on 26 Jan 2012 10:00

Single burn key to activate relevant burn aa.

Page8Button5Line1=/disc pureforge discipline Rk. III
Page8Button5Line2=/alt activate 920; /pause 1
Page8Button5Line3=/disc Righteous Vexation rk. III
Page8Button5Line4=/pause 1
Page8Button5Line5=/alt activate 6492

Line2= valorous rage
Line5= inquisitors judgement
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Re: how to max 2h dps?

Postby Boleslav on 26 Jan 2012 14:14

Shiftie,

That was outstanding. Thank you!
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Re: how to max 2h dps?

Postby riondel on 26 Jan 2012 16:17

thanks for lots of good info! i really cant find any dps aa line that will give immediate boosts worthy of training. soooo. ill finish out agi/dex aa's then come back and do veterans wrath nuke aa's i think
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Re: how to max 2h dps?

Postby shiftie on 26 Jan 2012 21:28

In terms o what you were talking about. Blessing of the faithful. I didn't look at your magelo, I just got tired of answering the same question over and over so I copy and pasted replies I made to other people.
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Re: how to max 2h dps?

Postby varutia on 28 Jan 2012 02:00

agi and dex aa are just about completely worthless. Personally I'd train any dps aa before doing those, at least the dps ones actually do something even if it is tiny.
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Re: how to max 2h dps?

Postby Ughbash on 28 Jan 2012 23:46

What varutia said.

Extra Dex and Agi are OVERCAP NOT HEROIC!!!!

Basically they suck.
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Re: how to max 2h dps?

Postby riondel on 02 Feb 2012 01:54

Ughbash wrote:What varutia said.

Extra Dex and Agi are OVERCAP NOT HEROIC!!!!

Basically they suck.


never knew that. thanks. guess ill just go hunt augs
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